Sorting files from two cameras.

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  • Poses
    Member

    I am looking for a little help! I have ACDSee Pro 8.1 and I need to sort files from two different cameras on same event, I was able to do this before I re-formatted my computer but can not get it to work now. Can anyone help?

    Posted On October 12, 2008 - 03:31 PM (1 year ago) (Permalink to this post)
  • moongate
    Moderator

    Poses said:

    I am looking for a little help! I have ACDSee Pro 8.1 and I need to sort files from two different cameras on same event, I was able to do this before I re-formatted my computer but can not get it to work now. Can anyone help?

    Can you provide some more detail about the current situation?

    You have files from two cameras for the same event meaning shot on the same day?

    The files have the same filenames i.e. DSC0001.jpg? Or are they different like DSC001.jpg and Pict0001.jpg?

    The files are all in the same folder?

    What is the problem that you can't differentiate the files from eachother now?

    Moongate

     

    Posted On October 12, 2008 - 04:15 PM (1 year ago) (Permalink to this post)
  • Poses
    Member

    I shot a wedding with two photographers with identical cameras, setting, time and date. I loaded them in one folder and I can not get them to mesh together. Right now I have a couple hundred files starting with DSCF2704 from one camera and then the files from the other camera start with DSCF5672 I want to be able to sort them as they were taken together and then re-number. I have tried the Sort/More/EXIF/Image/Time/Date Original and the same with Time/Date Digitized but they are still shown in group of camera 1 and then camera 2.

     

    I hope I did a little better job this time describing what I am looking to do. Thanks!

    Posted On October 12, 2008 - 05:23 PM (1 year ago) (Permalink to this post)
  • moongate
    Moderator

    Poses said:

    I shot a wedding with two photographers with identical cameras, setting, time and date. I loaded them in one folder and I can not get them to mesh together. Right now I have a couple hundred files starting with DSCF2704 from one camera and then the files from the other camera start with DSCF5672 I want to be able to sort them as they were taken together and then re-number. I have tried the Sort/More/EXIF/Image/Time/Date Original and the same with Time/Date Digitized but they are still shown in group of camera 1 and then camera 2.

    This time I understand much better.

    You could try

    sort->Exif->camera->date/time

    But Time/Date Digitized normally shoudl do the trick.

    You could check if you have anything activated under group by. There you should have selected none instead of camera.

    Does this help?

    Moongate

     

     


    I hope I did a little better job this time describing what I am looking to do. Thanks!

     

    Posted On October 12, 2008 - 06:55 PM (1 year ago) (Permalink to this post)
  • Poses
    Member

    Hi Moongate

     

    Thanks for trying to help! I tried the sort->Exif->camera->date/time and nothing. I don’t know were the Group by is can you tell me where to look.

     

    This happened with my older version once a few years ago and customer services walked me though getting it set up the way I described, but it was very lengthy process it had nothing to do with the sort properties. I think it was in the tools options. I know I ended up doing something I never would have thought of.

    Posted On October 12, 2008 - 07:49 PM (1 year ago) (Permalink to this post)
  • moongate
    Moderator

    Its here

     

    Moongate

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    Posted On October 12, 2008 - 09:43 PM (1 year ago) (Permalink to this post)
  • Marc Sabatella
    Moderator

    Poses said:

    Thanks for trying to help! I tried the sort->Exif->camera->date/time and nothing.

    Only thing I can think is that the cameras were *not* in fact set to the same date and time.  Look at the actual vaues reported for the times & dates in the EXIF tab of the Properties pane (or whatever the equvalent is in version 5 - I've never used that) - I'm thinking they'll show you that one camera was simply set differently than the other, and that's why the files are being grouped together.

    I don’t know were the Group by is can you tell me where to look.

     I think that's something that showed up around version 9 or so.

     

    Posted On October 13, 2008 - 12:10 AM (1 year ago) (Permalink to this post)
  • Tankred
    Moderator

    When I want to sort pictures from two different cameras, I always check whether they both have synchronized date and time values. If this is correct and the pictures are taken, I rename them to "year_month_day_hour_minute_second.extension" on my computer based on the EXIF original date/time value. After this has been done, the pictures are in the correct order when having them in the very same directory.

    Posted On October 13, 2008 - 08:16 AM (1 year ago) (Permalink to this post)
  • Poses
    Member

    I am embarrassed to say you were right about the camera setting. They are 12 hours off by the second. When I set the two camera I must have been more worried about get them down to the second, and I overlooked the AM PM. Since I set them both in the morning, after 12:00 Noon the camera 2 changed dates as well.

     

    New subject! Does any one know what I could do now to get them to mesh together?

     

    Thanks for your time.

    Tom

    Posted On October 13, 2008 - 02:49 PM (1 year ago) (Permalink to this post)
  • Marc Sabatella
    Moderator

    New subject! Does any one know what I could do now to get them to mesh together?

    In more recent versions of ACDSee, the command is Tools->Batch Adjust Time Stamp, and you'd select the option to shift the date/time by a given number (12 hours, in your case).  Perhaps your version has this too?

     

    Posted On October 13, 2008 - 03:36 PM (1 year ago) (Permalink to this post)
  • Tankred
    Moderator

    I did this recently as some of my last pictures were six hours off. It worked perfectly with Pro 2.5 although I could only adjust the original date/time and copied that info via batch set to digitized date/time and similar fields.

    Posted On October 13, 2008 - 03:42 PM (1 year ago) (Permalink to this post)
  • Poses
    Member

    I just upgraded to 2.5 and change batch>adjust>time stamp and Shift the date/time by 12 hours but I still have the same problem. After changing the time stamp what should I be Sorting by.

     

    Tom

    Posted On October 13, 2008 - 06:39 PM (1 year ago) (Permalink to this post)
  • Poses
    Member

    I have tried this many times and still nothing. Group was on none. I have tried sort under exif/camera/Time/date,, I tried under Image/time/date digital and Original. I still can not get them to mesh together. camera 1 starts at 10/11/2008 4:00 PM and camera 2 starts with 10/12/2008 4:00am Can any one help!!

    The time I have wasted trying to figure this out I could have re numbered them one by one!

    Posted On October 14, 2008 - 12:53 AM (1 year ago) (Permalink to this post)
  • Marc Sabatella
    Moderator

    Poses said:

    I just upgraded to 2.5 and change batch>adjust>time stamp and Shift the date/time by 12 hours but I still have the same problem. After changing the time stamp what should I be Sorting by.

    There are severla different time stamps involved, you need to be clear about which ones are off, which ones you are changing, and which ones you are sorting by.

    The "EXIF Date/Time Original" is the date stored in the file itself (by the camera) to record the date the picture was taken.  Actually, there may be several different EXIF fields that contian this informaiton, but this is the one msot people use.  If these dates are off, you need to make sure when you run the batch adjust operation that you are selecting this field to fix.  Then when you are done, be sure your are sorting by this field.

    Most likely, when you ran batch adjust, you actually changed only the database date, or the file modified date, or file created date.  You select which field to modify on the first screen of the operation.

    I personally like to use Database Date as my "official" date for everything.  It is the one I try to make sure is correct, and it's the one I usually sort by, use in my Calendar view, etc.  Under Tools->Options->Database, I have it set so the db date starts out as the EXIF time/date original.  If I later discover any files have the wrong time, I make sure I chnge both the database date and the exif date.  Actually, I usualy get the db date right first, and then when I am done with a bunch of files that need correction, I use another batch operation to copy the db date to the EXIF date for all the files I changed.


    Posted On October 15, 2008 - 03:46 PM (1 year ago) (Permalink to this post)

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