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Slide Show feature worse than before in 2.5! Now useless.

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  • rbeal
    Member

    I've always hoped that ACDSee could be useful to me for slide shows. I never imagined that with 2.5 they would actually make it more limited and also stop it working smoothly - by deliberate design changes!

    The slide show feature used to have a deficiency - only a limited ability to jump around in the slide show. Now that feature has been removed completely! Hopeless.

    It used to have a transition quality setting in the options. That meant you could do smooth fades. That has been removed, so on a large screen it judders with every fade transition, so is unacceptable.

    You can only start it in Play mode, so if you want to control it manually you have to move the mouse and pause it every time you start.

    I guess they just don't think people should be allowed to do slide shows except the most basic unattended ones.

    If you want to see the sort of features it should have, download Digital Photo Slide Show. It isn't perfect but it is cheap and doesn't have any of the problems listed above.

     

    Posted On September 23, 2008 - 12:21 PM (1 year ago) (Permalink to this post)

  • Erin
    Developer, ACD Systems

    rbeal,

    The Slide Show should not be juddering between fade transitions. I would like to investigate this issue, could you tell me:

    1) What Video Card you have

    2) What Screen Resolution you are running

    3) Which version of DirectX you have installed on your Video Card ( run dxdiag, you should have DirectX 9.0c)

    If your video card drivers are out of date, the Slide Show may not work correctly. When was the last time you updated your drivers?

    Any help would be appreciated. Thanks,

    Erin

     

     

    Posted On September 23, 2008 - 05:21 PM (1 year ago) (Permalink to this post)

  • rbeal
    Member

    Pixiechild said:

    rbeal,

    The Slide Show should not be juddering between fade transitions. I would like to investigate this issue, could you tell me:

    "1) What Video Card you have"

    It is a Sony desktop computer with an ATI Radeon 9200 video card. Not a recent machine but it has a Pentium 4 CPU and 2GB of memory so it works very well.

    "2) What Screen Resolution you are running"

    1600*1200

    "3) Which version of DirectX you have installed on your Video Card ( run dxdiag, you should have DirectX 9.0c)"

    9.0c

    And I'm running Windows XP SP3 with all the latest updates.

    "If your video card drivers are out of date, the Slide Show may not work correctly. When was the last time you updated your drivers?"

    The video card drivers are the latest. They have no problems at all, for example they do video perfectly well.

    "Any help would be appreciated. Thanks,

    Erin"

     I've put the answers to your questions above.

    Please note that the ONLY problem with my video card is with 2.5.   2.0 could be made to work perfectly, simply by tweaking the transition quality setting to move it from the default. Can't you simply put this setting back or tell us how to access it? Also note that the other program I mentioned in my original message does perfectly smooth fades, just like your 2.0 program did.  It is only a bit of judder, but it just isn't acceptable when showing people slides to have it perform other than perfectly.

    What about my other comments?  A suggestion for you. It would be incredibly simple to put a slider on the control display that is shown during the slideshow. You already display for example 17/82 meaning slide 17 out of 82 total. The slider would let you move to any number slide. This would be crude but effective.

    Hope this info helps, but I think the solution is fairly obvious.

    Posted On September 23, 2008 - 05:53 PM (1 year ago) (Permalink to this post)

  • Erin
    Developer, ACD Systems

    Hi rbeal,

    The video card you have only supports DirectX 8.1 and the updated Slide Show requires DirectX 9.0c in order to run correctly. ACDSee should have detected that proper DirectX support was not available and reverted back to the previous version of the Slide Show - I will look into this issue.

    http://ati.amd.com/products/MobilityRadeon9200/index.html

    The previous version of the Slide Show did not require DirectX video card support which is why you weren't seeing any problems.

    You are absolutely right, the ability to jump between images is no longer available. We will look at adding similar functionality in future versions.

    Erin

    Posted On September 23, 2008 - 06:50 PM (1 year ago) (Permalink to this post)

  • rbeal
    Member

    But how come I'm running 9.0c according to the disgnostics?

    Posted On September 23, 2008 - 08:02 PM (1 year ago) (Permalink to this post)

  • Tankred
    Moderator

    There is a difference between the DirectX version which is installed in your operating system and the features the graphics adapter is actually supporting. E.g. you can run a very old graphics card on Vista although this operating system utilizes DX10 files and the vga does not.

    Posted On September 23, 2008 - 09:50 PM (1 year ago) (Permalink to this post)

  • FelixDaHousecat
    Member

    Regardless of all the technical issues I have always been shocked at how poor the slide show feature is. It is so featureless and boring with poor transitions. Oh and by the way, my video card supports DirectX 9.0c and it shudders for me too.

    May I suggest that you look at how good the slide show feature in CompuPic Pro and try to imitate it!

    Posted On September 29, 2008 - 10:44 PM (1 year ago) (Permalink to this post)

  • Erin
    Developer, ACD Systems

    Felix,

    What video card do you have? Can you describe in more detail what you mean by shudder?

    I tried to check out CompuPic Pro, unfortunately I can't get the Slide Show feature to run. Can you name some specific features you like about it?

    Erin

     

    Posted On October 1, 2008 - 11:49 PM (1 year ago) (Permalink to this post)

  • Joe
    Member

    You are absolutely right, the ability to jump between images is no longer available. We will look at adding similar functionality in future versions.

    Removing of the manual control of the Slide Show was a great fault.
    The Slide Show of ACDSee is useless now.

    :-( :-(

    Cheers

    Joe

     

    Posted On October 2, 2008 - 09:14 AM (1 year ago) (Permalink to this post)

  • wotan_odyn
    Moderator

    Best Slideshow program I've used so far was MemoriesOnTv (http://www.codejam.com/). You can time everything to the second in it. But that's a specialised product and I don't suppose we can expect same kind of funcionality in ACDSee PhotoManager very soon. Unless ACDSee would just buy the CodeJam company? :-)

    Posted On October 5, 2008 - 09:27 AM (1 year ago) (Permalink to this post)

  • Tankred
    Moderator

    Joe said:

    Removing of the manual control of the Slide Show was a great fault.

    What kind of manual controls do you miss now, exactly?

    Posted On October 5, 2008 - 10:32 AM (1 year ago) (Permalink to this post)

  • WPWoodJr
    Member

    Pixiechild said:

    You are absolutely right, the ability to jump between images is no longer available. We will look at adding similar functionality in future versions.

    Erin

    Pixie, what do you mean?  I can still move back and forward in the slide show with the arrow and page up/down keys, and pause with "p".

    Posted On October 5, 2008 - 10:09 PM (1 year ago) (Permalink to this post)

  • Joe
    Member

    What kind of manual controls do you miss now, exactly?

    This one (from the german version 2.0):

     

    Joe

    Posted On October 7, 2008 - 06:23 AM (1 year ago) (Permalink to this post)

  • graydon
    Member

    I may be an antagonist on this one... but I'd just assume that ACDsee drop the slide show stuff completely from Pro.

    I think it tends to bloat the code and isn't at the core of what Pro could be the best at...   getting, sorting / cataloging, viewing, and basic editing.

    Pull the slideshow stuff out and make an add-on... and give it a dedicated development / support team that can make it rock.

    Posted On October 7, 2008 - 09:15 PM (1 year ago) (Permalink to this post)

  • BjornB
    Member

    graydon said:

    Pull the slideshow stuff out and make an add-on... and give it a dedicated development / support team that can make it rock.

    And what good would that do? I have no idea why you have declared war against the slideshow but you must have your reason I assume. Why don't you just stop using it?

    It works great for me and does what I need and expect it to do.

    Posted On October 7, 2008 - 10:11 PM (1 year ago) (Permalink to this post)

  • BjornB
    Member

    Joe said:

    What kind of manual controls do you miss now, exactly?

    This one (from the german version 2.0):

     

    Joe

    I have a parameter called 'Slide duration (sec)' in mine slideshow, isn't that the same. It's on the basic tab together with 'Variations'. 'Effects' and 'Background color'.

    Posted On October 7, 2008 - 10:26 PM (1 year ago) (Permalink to this post)

  • Joe
    Member

    BjornB said:

    I have a parameter called 'Slide duration (sec)' in mine slideshow, isn't that the same. It's on the basic tab together with 'Variations'. 'Effects' and 'Background color'.

    Yes, but I cannot type "0 seconds".

    I can use the slide show manually in version 2.0 by switching off this feature.

     

    Cheers

    Joe

    Posted On October 8, 2008 - 05:47 AM (1 year ago) (Permalink to this post)

  • BjornB
    Member

    Yes, but I cannot type "0 seconds".

    I can use the slide show manually in version 2.0 by switching off this feature.

    Just curios, why do you want to set it to "0"? If you want to look at the pictures one at the time you will get the same effect by selecting full screen in the viewer.

    Cheers

    Posted On October 8, 2008 - 06:37 AM (1 year ago) (Permalink to this post)

  • Joe
    Member

    BjornB said:

    Just curios, why do you want to set it to "0"? If you want to look at the pictures one at the time you will get the same effect by selecting full screen in the viewer.

    I want to control the slide show manually. I use the function for scientific and public lectures and would like to use the transition effects of the slide show.

    BTW - the control panel of the slide show in version 2.0 is more useful then in version 2.5.

    Joe

    Posted On October 8, 2008 - 08:20 AM (1 year ago) (Permalink to this post)

  • graydon
    Member

    Sorry - I wasn't declaring war on the slideshow function... and in fact have only used it once.

    The comment to remove it from the core app is based upon reading the forum here... there are many stability issues with Pro that pulling something out of it (like slideshow) might help the overall user base.

    Posted On October 8, 2008 - 01:55 PM (1 year ago) (Permalink to this post)

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