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Sharing photo captions & keywords

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  • zanemc
    Member

    Hi

    I'm wanting to share my family history photo's with other families members who may or may not own ACDSee .

    Does the new features in Photo mgr 2009 help in the two situatios a ) they own ACDSee b ) other programmes ?

    Thanks

    zane

     

     

    Posted On November 20, 2008 - 09:37 AM (1 year ago) (Permalink to this post)

  • Marc Sabatella
    Moderator

    zanemc said:

    I'm wanting to share my family history photo's with other families members who may or may not own ACDSee .

    Does the new features in Photo mgr 2009 help in the two situatios a ) they own ACDSee b ) other programmes ?

    Yes for a), not so easily for b).  If you use the "embed metadata" facility in ACDSee PM 2009, then info is stored in the images themselves in a place where others using PM 2009 can see it.  But it's not anywhere where most other applications will notice it - the fileds are private to ACDSee.  In order for other applications to notice, you'd need it to be in standard places like IPTC fields.  So you'll have to enter the info into the IPTC fields manually using PM 2009.  With the Pro version, you can batch copy your regular database captions and keywords to to IPTC fields, but with PM 2009, you'll have to retype it.  Or use an external utility like ExifTool, which as far as I know *can* see the info ACDSee embeds into its private fields, and probably can copy this to IPTC.  But setting that up would take a bit of work.

    Note another possibility: if you use the Flickr uploader included with ACDSee (not sure about other uploaders), the db info is automatically converted into captions & keywords within Flickr.  So if you share in this way, then it is handled for you withiout needing to get the info into IPTC first.

    Posted On November 22, 2008 - 09:57 PM (12 months ago) (Permalink to this post)

  • zanemc
    Member

    Marc

    Sounds just what I want because I can send copies of the photo's to my relatives or an online album ( Smugmug advise that they recognise IPTC fields and can "copy" the "desription field to it's captions) and my backup of the files will include the key information that I'd like to retain i.e captions & keywords .

    It also makes me a little more independant of ACDSee if I ever want to change to another photo management software.

    I've just got an example at the moment where my desktop PC has crashed & I've used the database backup on my laptop & it's only recovered the categories and NO captions !!!.

    If the photo files had included the the caption & keywords in the IPTC fields then I wouldn't have this problem ?

    ....sounds like the pro version is the way to go !!

    Thanks

    Zane

     

     

     

     

    Posted On November 23, 2008 - 11:31 PM (12 months ago) (Permalink to this post)

  • zanemc
    Member

    Marc

    Sorry to be a pane but I will.......

    In ACDSee10 I've used that "Batch set information" to copy the ACDSee db caption field to EXIF "Image description " field , then changed the caption field & udpated the "Image description " ( restored to blank & add new field).

    Why can't I do this to the IPTC fields in ACDSee10 ?
    When I can copy files do both the IPTC & EXIF included ?

    Am I right thinking that the EXIF comes from the camera & the IPTC are for other uses like copyright , captions etc

    Thanks again
    zane

    Posted On November 23, 2008 - 11:56 PM (12 months ago) (Permalink to this post)

  • Marc Sabatella
    Moderator

    zanemc said:

    I've just got an example at the moment where my desktop PC has crashed & I've used the database backup on my laptop & it's only recovered the categories and NO captions !!!.

    If the photo files had included the the caption & keywords in the IPTC fields then I wouldn't have this problem ?

    Yes, although categories are little complicated to save/restore via IPTC, because there is no way to preserve the hierarchy.  So if you use those a lot, the embedded metadata is better for that.  Luckily for me, I don't use categories enough to care.

    Of course, it's also worth trying to understand why your captions didn't come back with the db restore...

     

    Posted On December 3, 2008 - 06:36 AM (11 months ago) (Permalink to this post)

  • Marc Sabatella
    Moderator

    zanemc said:

    In ACDSee10 I've used that "Batch set information" to copy the ACDSee db caption field to EXIF "Image description " field , then changed the caption field & udpated the "Image description " ( restored to blank & add new field).

    Why can't I do this to the IPTC fields in ACDSee10 ?

    Because the folks at ACD decided this should be a Pro-only feature.  No idea how they decided that.

    When I can copy files do both the IPTC & EXIF included ?

    Yes.  Actually, there are options settings within ACDSee to control whether metadata is preserved in varius operations like batch processing, save as, etc.  But a simply file copy will always copy EXIF and ITPC, since that is part of the file.

    Am I right thinking that the EXIF comes from the camera & the IPTC are for other uses like copyright , captions etc

    In general, yes.  Some EXIF fields can be set by users, but that's kind of frowned upon these days, I think, since IPTC provides better ways to record this same info.

     

    Posted On December 3, 2008 - 06:39 AM (11 months ago) (Permalink to this post)

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