My final message to acdsee.com

(11 posts)
  • uncletim
    Member

    Hi and bye guys. This is my final post . I hope for yoru sakes you have a better experience than I did. Here is my final message to this company calling them out and daring them to answer. My guess is they will not take up the challenge.

    For your reading enjoyment, this is my message. I have already sent it in to the company.

    Hi:

    I don't want any help anymore. This is just a note to let you know in no uncertain terms that I am HORRIBLY, HORRIBLY disappointed in your program AND YOUR COMPANY.

    After cataloging over 200,000 images and many,many,many,many,many,many,many,many crashes, I go to work today and find MY ENTIRE CATALOG HAS BEEN WIPED OUT!!!!!!!!!!!

    What is worse, the program will not even stay up long enough to re catalog even one folder. NOT EVEN ONE DIRECTORY!

    I am a pro photographer and I would love to blame this on Vista, however, I noticed that Lightroom never crashes! Now why is that?

    In the circle of photographers I run with, there is a massive change of direction with most of these guys .

    Why? Here's why!

    1. This free upgrade has wiped out our ability to use this product.
    2. You have left us at build 363 for months now. MONTHS! There seems to be no development on 2.5 any more.
    3. You have shown up how you feel about us. No support, no help, no fix.
    4. You have actually hurt us with this upgrade and then dropped us on our heads. Not even an "I am sorry" over this.
    5. You can tell most about a company when they face adversity. And you guys have utterly failed at this. When we need you, we now know you will not be there for us.
    6. Your existing customer base is unimportant to you. At least that is what your actions have shown us. Talk is cheap! And so are useless suggestions.
    7. My time is extremely valuable. The only reason I am writing this is for me it seems to be a means of therapy. For some sick reason this seems to help.
    8. We have lost complete faith in this company to control it's own destiny.
    9. We now know you have great difficulty in properly coding software.
    10. If we were stupid enough to do more business with you we run the risk of;
    a. Experiencing the same frustration we have in the recent past.
    b. Not being able to use these tools to satisfy our needs and the needs of our customers.
    c. We run the risk of complete utter destruction of our database of images we have compiled over the course of our professional lives.
    d. New problems that we have not even experienced yet.

    You are welcome to respond to this or turn it over to some person in charge of damage control, but remember this.

    In every conversation someone is sold. Either the person selling some idea sells the idea to the other person or the other person sells them that their iea/product sucks. Which one do you think would happen.

    I am deeply, deeply disappointed in your company and your remedies to these totally unnecessary problems.

    With build 2.5 you have done unrepairable harm to your product base and worse, to your customer base.

    Good luck rebuilding that trust. My guess is you will not even respond to this.

    Coldest regards.

    Tim Gillespie

    Posted On September 25, 2009 - 03:29 PM (1 month ago) (Permalink to this post)
  • Sam Dring
    Moderator

    Tim

    I will not comment on your post - you are, of course, entitled to your opinion.  I have, however, deleted a couple of the adjectives you used!

    Posted On September 25, 2009 - 03:40 PM (1 month ago) (Permalink to this post)
  • uncletim
    Member

    Just as I would expect.

    Remember I did not show up with this attitude. It was given to me by you guys.

    Before you condemn me for my language, just remember what you have put your customer through and the deeds that have brought us all to this point.

    I would also like to let you know this message is going to show up on several different forums that pros hang out on. 

    The damage you guys have caused will just continue to grow.

    Tim G.

     

    Posted On September 25, 2009 - 03:59 PM (1 month ago) (Permalink to this post)
  • uncletim
    Member

    One last thing.

    Lets make sure we understand this. That post is factual with a few opinions.

    Facts 98%

    Opinions 2%

    Posted On September 25, 2009 - 04:03 PM (1 month ago) (Permalink to this post)
  • Sam Dring
    Moderator

    Remember I did not show up with this attitude. It was given to me by you guys.

    Tim

    No problem squire - but please remember that the mods are nothing more than users just like you.

    Posted On September 25, 2009 - 05:39 PM (1 month ago) (Permalink to this post)
  • Marc Sabatella
    Moderator

    uncletim said:After cataloging over 200,000 images and many,many,many,many,many,many,many,many crashes, I go to work today and find MY ENTIRE CATALOG HAS BEEN WIPED OUT!!!!!!!!!!!

    Unless you deleted the files yourself, there is no way that your catalog has actually been wiped out.  Most likely, there is just something that has changed on your system that has caused ACDSee to not see the catalog you had previously created.  And it's probably something that could be corrected in a few minutes.  If you would like to resolve the problem, feel free to post more details about your situation.  Otherwise, if you'd just like to vent, that is your right, of course. Your choice.

    Posted On September 25, 2009 - 06:13 PM (1 month ago) (Permalink to this post)
  • Paulgul
    Member

    Tim,

    Please remember this is a users forum and not a company forum, few, if any, members on here work for the company so when you say 'you guys' you are blaming other users for your problem. If (and its a big if) there is a problem wih the program you would be better off sending an email directly to the company support. As Marc said it's probably a problem with your setup somewhere but I'm sure support would be able to help you

    Posted On September 26, 2009 - 10:42 AM (1 month ago) (Permalink to this post)
  • BrettB
    Member

    I would also like to let you know this message is going to show up on several different forums that pros hang out on.

    As is your prerogative - although from the content of your post I have no idea what exactly has happened (other than that you have a problem with your cataloging) or why I should doubt the use of a program that I have found stable and reliable.

    post is factual with a few opinions. Facts 98% Opinions 2%

    There is undoubtedly a great deal of fact that has led up to your understandable desire to vent your frustration, but these facts are not represented, explained or supported in your post.

    I am always interested to see how a company responds when there are problems and I guess most of us have had frustrations with some company in getting them to listen and make a sensible response. 

    When I have had to go to ACDSee for support I have received a sensible response, that indicates they read what I wrote, well within the timescale that they state.

    I would be interested to know what happened to lead you to let of steam in this therapeutic manner, but what is here is not going to do

    unrepairable harm to your product base and worse, to your customer base

    Posted On September 26, 2009 - 11:03 AM (1 month ago) (Permalink to this post)
  • r1417
    Member

    I doubt that ACDSee could wipe out your catalog.

    But I think of writing the final message too, bacause of the stupid exif bug, that ACDsee programmers can't correct for the last 2 years.

    Posted On October 3, 2009 - 03:30 PM (1 month ago) (Permalink to this post)
  • maryjos
    Member

    I have to say, I totally understand where the original poster is coming from. I have been trying for some time to get the 2.5 version to do *simple* tasks without crashing, I've followed the instructions on the knowledge base (which aren't much help as it crashed when I tried to do that as well). I even uninstalled the entire program, installed it again, and even running the latest patch, it threw an error during that! The program is the most horribly unstable piece of software on my computer, and the best suggestion I have is to pay $90 for an upgrade I can't afford and don't need just in the hope that it doesn't crash constantly as well. Or to completely start over with a new database, after putting in easily hundreds of hours in cataloging over 20 gig worth of images. The upgrade price is already higher than the percentage that most companies charge for upgrades, but to be forced into upgrading because the previous version is so unstable is just unreasonable and unfair. I've never been so disappointed in a program as I am in this one. 

     

    MJ

    Posted On October 4, 2009 - 07:43 PM (1 month ago) (Permalink to this post)
  • BrettB
    Member

    I can understand how frustrating these crashes can be, but in my experience almost any software can be an issue for some computer setups.

    For example I had endless problems with Acronis - spoken highly of by so many - and could never get a reliable disk image. Strangely, having changed my graphics card (nvidia to ATI) it worked perfectly. I don't know why and couldn't find any reference to this.

    I suppose no software developer can take account of every possible combination of software and hardware on a machine and can only try and do something when an issue arises.

    I have found ACDSee to be very stable for the most part but I rarely invest in any expensive software unless I can run a trial version successfully first.

    I doubt that any software manufacturer is going to survive if these problems are very wide-spread. When it happens to you though a responsive customer support goes a long way.

    Posted On October 4, 2009 - 08:33 PM (1 month ago) (Permalink to this post)

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