Multi-user support and synchronization

(11 posts)
  • dlinderyd
    Member

    Multi-user support over a network seems to be high on my lists of suggestions.

    The way I would like to work is like this:

    • I hava a small network at home, with currently two laptops over a wifi g network. (Currently ACDSee Pro is only sitting on one of the laptops, but if ACD Systems could solve this issue I would definately get another license for the other laptop.)
    • I want the two laptops to be able to work on a NAS-held database, simultaniously, with all image stored on the NAS as well.
    • Both laptops should then easily be able to synchronize changes to a local disk, in order to be able to take the laptop outside the wifi network, e.g. to the studio, and then carry all pics or a configurable collection of pics from the database on the local disk.
    • The configurable collection could for example be a categoy, date range, etc.
    • The local disk would also store a copy of the full database with thumbnails.
    • On the road I would ba able to add new pics and database information and work on the existing database information
    • Once I get back home the laptop/s would synchronize their database information and any new pics with the NAS-stored "master" database.
    I've tried to figure out a way to solve this with the current version of ACDSee Pro, but haven't found a way to do this. I've searched the forums, but I get the impression that these features are currently not available. However, if some or all these features are available or there is a workaround, please let me know.

    Posted On April 16, 2006 - 11:37 AM (3 years ago) (Permalink to this post)
  • lm1357
    Member

    Yes, this would be a great feature. I work regularly on a laptop away from the office and would love to use my ACDSee catalog away from the office.

    I'd like to add another usage model to this one as well. I called it the "shared catalog database". In this case two or more computers (laptops or desktops) share the same database. When metadata is entered from one system it is instantly (no sync required) available to the other systems.

    Posted On April 18, 2006 - 08:00 PM (3 years ago) (Permalink to this post)
  • keithk
    Member

    lm1357 said:

    I'd like to add another usage model to this one as well. I called it the "shared catalog database". In this case two or more computers (laptops or desktops) share the same database. When metadata is entered from one system it is instantly (no sync required) available to the other systems.

    if this would be possible, i would buy ACDSEE PRO for my entire company(12 people)...

    PLEASE MAKE THIS POSSIBLE </forums.acdsystems.com/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />

    Posted On June 6, 2006 - 06:53 AM (3 years ago) (Permalink to this post)
  • dfidler
    Member

    Id like to see support for a real RDMBS (oracle, postgres, mysql, db2, etc) for the image catalog. I have 3 laptops that share a common repository of a little over 100K files. I use ACDSee personally, but I would love it if I could convince the wife to do so also (she uses Elements; we have no reason to standardize on an app as there is no easy way to share ratings, categories, etc).

    This DB would store:

    • ratings
    • categories
    • keywords
    • exif
    • iptc
    • possibly thumbnails (get rid of that damned ripcache)
    • md5sums <-- so if I move a file to another location outside of ACDSee, it can quickly generate a new checksum for this file and compare it to ones that already exist in the DB, then ask me if I want to apply meta data from the file that is already in the DB. Oh god, would this rock.

    <u>Use case</u>

    My wife and I share a common image repository: G:\Grahics\Pictures (mounted from a unix server); inside of which, directories go by date and description; eg:

    2005

    • 2005-12-25 - Gift Giving <-- contains image thumbnails
      • cr2 <-- original canon raw files marked read only
      • dng <-- converted cr2 -> dng files; these get editted
    • 2005-12-25 - Christmas Parade
      • cr2
      • dng
    • 2005-12-26 - Night time sleigh ride with family
    2006
    • 2006-01-01 - The bender
    • 2006-01-01 - Legion shoot

    I use ACDSee, she uses Elements. We use separate programs because there is no real benefit to using a single one because we can't share ratings and categories so we do it all manually through thumbs, filenames and text files and folder names and we aren't willing to copy our sync our db's because there is no reason to.

    As an aside, I'd also like to see better integration with other features like Duplicate Finder. An 'Exact Duplicate' finder action would be simple: Catalogue the images in the first pass and add an md5sum, then, to find duplicates all you need to do is:

    SQL> select filename, md5sum from (select md5sum, count(*) from image_data where (path like '%some path string%' or path like '%some path string%') group by md5sum having count(*) > 1);

    In oracle, this can be done in a second.. instead of waiting 20 mins for ACDSee to chug through it's temporary db of files. </forums.acdsystems.com/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />

    So I understand that this would see limited use, but there are a number of photography companies out there that would kill for a feature like this; but I know that most of your users wouldn't use it. Perhaps there needs to be an 'Enterprise Edition'?

    The reason that I don't like the NAS based DB file is because it is too easy for a single file to be corrupted and accessing a huge file over the network (even using gig-e) would be performance restrictive. No, it makes more sense to have something running on a server that serves up the information to the client application. And rather that reinventing the wheel, it also makes more sense to just use existing systems... postgres, oracle, mysql, etc [my preference is in that order]. MS Access support would be a waste as it is nothing more than another version of the ACDSee DB; file based and slow.

    Take care,
    Dave.

    PS - I know that most users wouldn't use this so this will likely fall upon deaf ears but I have to ask anyways. </forums.acdsystems.com/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

    Posted On June 11, 2006 - 05:36 AM (3 years ago) (Permalink to this post)
  • fabiminator
    Member

    David said:

    if this would be possible, i would buy ACDSEE PRO for my entire company(12 people)...

    PLEASE MAKE THIS POSSIBLE </forums.acdsystems.com/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />

    Same here. Is there any news about a new release which will have this feature included?

    Posted On August 14, 2006 - 04:10 AM (3 years ago) (Permalink to this post)
  • tobe
    Member

    fabiminator said:

    Same here. Is there any news about a new release which will have this feature included?

    same here, I have been asking them since version 5 of the regular ACDsee. for our purposes, it could even be shared database on the server, so that everyone reads and writes from it at the same time. I am having durrently version 6.0.3 and pointed everyone to the same database on the server, although it's not supported it's working ok (as long as noone accesses the same image at the same time. It's a bit buggy and not intended to work that way, but would be real nice if they can figure this out (SOON?)

    anyway, glad there are other poeple that work in teams or are in need of synced databases, although I like to add if it's synced (like the software they had earlier to sync databases for version 6 (I forgot the name)) I'd like to have one that does that automatically, not based on when one clicks a few buttons.....

    thanks

    Posted On August 24, 2006 - 05:15 PM (3 years ago) (Permalink to this post)
  • dlinderyd
    Member

    The shared database is a great idea, and this is basically what I was talking about in the original post, but we sould not forget the synchronisation from laptop to NAS and/or server, which is equally important to me. But they go hand in hand, don't they.

    Posted On August 24, 2006 - 05:41 PM (3 years ago) (Permalink to this post)
  • kgallme
    Member

    I'm so glad to hear that I'm not the only one looking for a multi-user solution! I work in a training department that recently started designing and developing e-learning courses. At the moment, we have a decent-sized library of images and can generally scroll through thumbnails to find the right one. However, as we continue to stage more photo shoots for new content modules over time, our efforts to find suitable images will no doubt get more and more frustrating and time consuming without a tool to organize and categorize them.

    ACDSee seems like a useful, user-friendly enough tool for a single user. The problem is that various users on my team will need to be searching our image library at different times, for different purposes, but will want to benefit from shared keywords, categories, ratings, etc.

    I know there's only a few of us requesting this approach so far (on the forum, anyway), but please, please ACD Systems, offer an "enterprise edition" (like the earlier poster suggested), and there WILL be groups like mine who'll take advantage of it. If it could give us the freedom we need to work independently AND organize our shared library, it'd be hard to talk us out of it. I'd want a minimum of 5 licenses to start!

    Posted On August 25, 2006 - 06:30 PM (3 years ago) (Permalink to this post)
  • dfidler
    Member

    bump

    Posted On July 28, 2008 - 06:14 PM (1 year ago) (Permalink to this post)
  • dfidler
    Member

    Looks like this has made it onto ACDS' todo list: http://forums.acdsystems.com/index.php?showtopic=3898

    w000000t!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Posted On August 27, 2008 - 07:48 PM (1 year ago) (Permalink to this post)
  • mindleftnumb
    Member

    Hi dfidler (or anyone else :). Is there another link for the proof this feature is on their todo list? The link above takes me to the community home page. Thank you!

    Posted On January 16, 2009 - 09:01 PM (10 months ago) (Permalink to this post)

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