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  • MTNE
    Member

    Please can anyone tell me if there is a simple way of entering a "carriage-return & line-feed" into the notes field of the database without having to copy from elsewhere and paste into the field? (Very tedious!)

    Martin Elsworth

    Posted On April 10, 2009 - 04:43 PM (7 months ago) (Permalink to this post)

  • tibu
    Focus Group

    This has worked for me:
    After typing your first line press in combination "Ctrl-Enter" the cursor disappears, then left click once on the next blank line and you will see the cursor blinking ready to type.

    In the middle of the first line this does not work.

    At the end of the line you want to have a carriage return using "Ctrl-Enter" you cannot begin typing, you first have to click as described above to see the cursor then you can start typing.

    Posted On April 10, 2009 - 06:02 PM (7 months ago) (Permalink to this post)

  • dheasebro
    Member

    I discovered somehow that Ctrl-M works (anyone know where I read that?). Lately, though, I've noticed that many of my line breaks had disappeared. The line breaks aren't actually missing, but ACDSee no longer interprets them correctly. Suspicion fell on the new Embed Metadata feature, but I haven't confirmed that since I discontinued embedding.

    Posted On April 10, 2009 - 08:06 PM (7 months ago) (Permalink to this post)

  • dheasebro
    Member

    I should add that I can restore my line breaks one at a time by selecting the narrow, undisplayed character and overtyping with a new Ctrl-M. I'm just not yet sure the problem doesn't come back.

    Posted On April 11, 2009 - 02:04 AM (7 months ago) (Permalink to this post)

  • Marc Sabatella
    Moderator

    dheasebro said:

    I discovered somehow that Ctrl-M works (anyone know where I read that?).

    No, but thanks for posting this!  I had figured out the Ctrl-Enter + click workaround too, but Ctrl-M is so much nicer!

    Lately, though, I've noticed that many of my line breaks had disappeared. The line breaks aren't actually missing, but ACDSee no longer interprets them correctly.

    I've noticed something similar.  Not connected to using Ctrl-M, because I didn't know about that until just now. Where I've seen it is in running Batch Processor to generate smaller JPEG "proofs" of my original RAW files using the "preserve database info" option.  The line breaks seem not to be preserved when displaying the db info for the generated files.  But there is an invisible character where the line break should be (cursor pauses there when cursing through the text), so like you say, it seems it is present but nt being displayed correctly.

    Posted On April 11, 2009 - 03:13 PM (7 months ago) (Permalink to this post)

  • MTNE
    Member

    Thanks everybody. Ctrl+enter works for me sometimes (about 1 in 5) but Ctrl+M seems reliable. I have a memory from a long time ago that Ctrl+M with Ctrl+L was equivallent to CR + LF. I wonder if the two together might overcome the disappearing line breaks, Ctrl+L on its own doesn't seem to have any effect.

    Posted On April 12, 2009 - 05:08 PM (7 months ago) (Permalink to this post)

  • dheasebro
    Member

    Interesting... I don't think Ctrl-L is involved: when I type it, I hear a "ding", suggesting that the combination is unrecognized. I tried the entire alphabet and got a few other results:

    Ctrl-I: tab
    Ctrl-H: backspace
    Ctrl-J: CR-LF
    Ctrl-M: CR-LF
    Z, X, C and V do what they do in other programs: undo (most recent edit), delete (selection), copy (selection) and paste (most recent copy or delete).
    Non-alphabet characters produce either a "ding" or no apparent response.

    Posted On April 13, 2009 - 12:03 AM (7 months ago) (Permalink to this post)

  • dheasebro
    Member

    Did some more digging and found documentation for these combinations: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ascii.html and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascii#ASCII_control_characters. Apparently, most just aren't implemented in ACDSee.

    Posted On April 13, 2009 - 12:30 AM (7 months ago) (Permalink to this post)

  • John Radcliffe
    Member

    dheasebro said:

    I discovered somehow that Ctrl-M works (anyone know where I read that?).

    The original thread was: http://community.acdsee.com/forums/topic/database-and-iptc-caption#post-27847

    However, embedding control characters is non-standard, so it would appear that ACDSee strips them out when embedding. Which is a pity, as I know of no other way of permanently entering them. Perhaps we'll get one in Pro 3.

    Posted On April 14, 2009 - 03:16 PM (7 months ago) (Permalink to this post)

  • dheasebro
    Member

    Thanks, John. I've made a note of it this time. So much for embedding until this is fixed. Please note that this happens not necessarily to the embedded data (I haven't checked) but to the original ACDSee database Caption and Notes fields. I can't have the embedding process sabotage that. I just now compared the File Properties>Modified dates of some pictures with damaged captions against the last date I embedded, confirming a correlation.

    Posted On April 14, 2009 - 05:26 PM (7 months ago) (Permalink to this post)

  • Marc Sabatella
    Moderator

    John Radcliffe said:

    dheasebro said:

    I discovered somehow that Ctrl-M works (anyone know where I read that?).

    The original thread was: http://community.acdsee.com/forums/topic/database-and-iptc-caption#post-27847

    Geez, I've got a short memory.

    Posted On April 15, 2009 - 04:19 AM (7 months ago) (Permalink to this post)

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